apa-Stil und biber: Bibliographie bleibt leer

[tjaenare]

Hallo,
ich möchte den apa-Style und entsprechend biber als backend nutzen, doch meine Bibliographie bleibt leer. Nun habe ich schon mehrere Antworten zu dem offensichtlich nicht zum ersten Mal auftauchenden Problem gesehen. Auch wenn ich schon einiges geändert -- und dabei hoffentlich einige Fehler eleminiert habe --, so will das Ganze doch nicht so recht laufen. Wahrscheinlich betriebsblind...

Hier, als Minimalbeispiel, was in der Datei steht:


\documentclass[fontsize=10bp,a4paper,titlepage,DIV=11]{scrartcl}
\renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[OT1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[ngerman,german]{babel}
\usepackage{array}
\newcolumntype{R}[1]{>{\raggedleft}p{#1}}
\usepackage{hyperref}
%\usepackage{natbib}
%\bibliographystyle{plainnat}

\usepackage[style=apa,backend=biber,hyperref=true,natbib=true, uniquename=false,hyperref,maxbibnames=10]{biblatex}
%\bibliography{./Bibliography_Verl}
\DeclareLanguageMapping{ngerman}{ngerman-apa}
\defbibheading{head}{\section{Literaturverzeichnis }}
\addbibresource{Bibliography_Verl.bib}
\usepackage[autostyle,german=guillemets,english=british,french =guillemets]{csquotes}

\begin{document}

\subsubsection*{Schwieriges Modell}
Bla-bla und noch mehr bla \textcite{andersen1995}!

\printbibliography[heading=head]

\end{document}


Der aufgerufene Key liegt in der Datei Bibliography_Verl.bib im selben Verzeichnis. Lasse ich das Ganze fünfmal durchlaufen, so ist auch genau dieser Eintrag an die *.bbl-Datei übergeben worden, in der *.aux-Datei taucht andersen jedoch nicht mehr auf. Entsprechend erhalte ich weiterhin die Meldung "Citation andersen1995 on page 1 undefined on input line 22" und die Bibliographie im erstellten Dokument bleibt leer.

Habe ich irgendeinen Tippfehler übersehen? Fehlt noch eine Anpassung? Oder liegt es an der "Zusammenarbeit" zwischen TeXnicCenter und BibLaTeX?

Herzlichen Dank schon einmal für die Hilfe!

[Donalduck]

Rufst du denn biber überhaupt auf?

[tjaenare]

Biber wird durch TeXnicCenter (C:\Programme\MikTeX2.9\miktex\bin\biber.exe; "%tm") aufgerufen und präsentiert sich nach einem Durchlauf durch "This is Biber 0.9.8", während es zeitgleich die entsprechenden Hilfsdateien anlegt. Von daher scheint das zu funktionieren. Außerdem sagt mir die *.log-Datei, dass die apa-Style-Datei offensichtlich auch gefunden wurde. Oder gibt es eine genauere Möglichkeit, nachzuprüfen, ob biber tatsächlich tätig wird?

[u_fischer]

Oder gibt es eine genauere Möglichkeit, nachzuprüfen, ob biber tatsächlich tätig wird?

Du musst halt mal in die .blg-Datei schauen.

Abgesehen davon solltest du deine Sprachen mal sortieren. ngerman + german zu nutzen, kann nur zur Verwirrung führen.

[tjaenare]

Das meint *.blg-Datei, was das gleiche ist wie das, was mir auch am Ende der Kompilierung ausgegeben wird:

[1] Config.pm:300> INFO - This is Biber 0.9.8
[1] Config.pm:303> INFO - Logfile is 'Tescht.blg'
[4] biber-MSWIN:131> INFO - === Do Aug , 2012, 16:28:29
[5] Biber.pm:271> INFO - Reading 'Tescht.bcf'
[49] Biber.pm:586> INFO - Found 1 citekeys in bib section 0
[77] Biber.pm:2583> INFO - Processing bib section 0
[136] Biber.pm:2675> INFO - Looking for bibtex format file 'Bibliography_Verl.bib' for section 0
[151] bibtex.pm:819> INFO - Decoding LaTeX character macros into UTF-8
[244] bibtex.pm:823> INFO - Finished Decoding LaTeX character macros into UTF-8
[245] bibtex.pm:689> INFO - Found BibTeX data source 'Bibliography_Verl.bib'
[303] Utils.pm:168> WARN - BibTeX subsystem: C:\DOKUME~1\Saller\LOKALE~1\Temp\yw1TV5IclD\Biblio graphy_Verl.bib_3352.utf8, line 1349, warning: possible runaway string started at line 1348
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[412] Biber.pm:2482> INFO - No sort tailoring available for locale 'English_United States.1252'
[442] Biber.pm:2478> INFO - Sorting list 'SHORTHANDS' keys
[442] Biber.pm:2482> INFO - No sort tailoring available for locale 'English_United States.1252'
[467] bbl.pm:427> INFO - Writing 'Tescht.bbl' with encoding 'UTF-8'
[468] bbl.pm:498> INFO - Output to Tescht.bbl
[468] Biber.pm:106> INFO - WARNINGS: 1


Danach scheint mir sowohl meine Bibliographie erkannt worden zu sein als auch Biber zu laufen, oder?

Ich habe 'german' jetzt testeshalber 'mal weggelassen, am Ergebnis ändert das auch nichts. Da wir außerdem mit mehreren Quellen unterschiedlicher Rechtschreibung arbeiten, ist das nötig, Wenn das schon zu Verwirrung führt, weiß ich nicht, was ich mit meinen mehrsprachigen Texten machen soll.

[u_fischer]

Da wir außerdem mit mehreren Quellen unterschiedlicher Rechtschreibung arbeiten, ist das nötig

Dann solltest du aber die zusätzlichen Sprachen für apa deklarieren. Es macht nicht viel Sinn, wenn es ein Mapping für ngerman gibt, aber die aktive Sprache german ist. Ich zumindest bekomme einfach Fehler.

Abgesehen davon funktioniert dein Beispiel bei mir, aber ich habe natürlich nicht deine bib-Datei.

Zeig mal bbl und deine log-Datei.

[nixversteh]

Hallo tjaenare,

wenn du apa benutzt, musst du dich meines Wissen auf eine Sprache festlegen. Du hast
\DeclareLanguageMapping{ngerman}{ngerman-apa} angegeben, musst also auch
\usepackage[german,ngerman]{babel} einsetzen.

Ohne Garantie, weil ich keine Windosen verwende.

Viel Erfolg

Gruß und willkommen im Forum

Martin

[tjaenare]

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Irgendwie habe ich den Eindruck, dass vielleicht alles erstellt, aber dann auf die falsche Datei zurückgegriffen wird...

@nixversteh:

Ohne Garantie, weil ich keine Windosen verwende.
Das scheint mir manchmal durchaus die wesentlich bessere Variante zu sein! :-)

[tjaenare]

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[nixversteh]

Hallo tjaenare,

hast du meinen Code eingesetzt? Was passiert?
Unter Linux und Texlive 2012 und Kile getestet.
Gruß
Martin

[u_fischer]

Eine vollständige log-Datei wäre besser gewesen, da ist es einfacher ein diff zu machen. Außerdem wüsste man, ob biblatex wirklich nicht nach der bbl sucht.

Abgesehen davon: Du hast deutlich ältere Paketversionen als ich.

[tjaenare]

Eine vollständige log-Datei wäre besser gewesen, da ist es einfacher ein diff zu machen. Außerdem wüsste man, ob biblatex wirklich nicht nach der bbl sucht.


Wenn es hilft, dann die vollständige log-Datei in zwei Schritten (wg. Zeichenbegrenzung auf 15.000 Zeichen):

Teil 1:


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[tjaenare]

Naja, und noch ein Teil 3:


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Abgesehen davon: Du hast deutlich ältere Paketversionen als ich.

Ich update gerade 'mal meine Pakete. Bin i.d.R. nicht sehr emsig damit, da mir MikTeX schon zweimal die Pakete arg durcheinander gewirbelt hat und danach eine Neuinstallation fällig war. 'Mal sehen, ob es vielleicht tatsächlich an einem alten Paket liegt.


@nixversteh

Hast du meinen Code eingesetzt? Was passiert?
Unter Linux und Texlive 2012 und Kile getestet.
Gruß
Martin

Ja, den habe ich eingefügt. Produziert keinen zusätzlichen Fehler, aber eine Bibliographie wird damit leider immer noch nicht ausgespuckt. :confused: Einen Versuch war es sicher wert, manchmal hängt es ja an Kleinigkeiten...

[u_fischer]

Wenn es hilft, dann die vollständige log-Datei in zwei Schritten (wg. Zeichenbegrenzung auf 15.000 Zeichen):

Man kann log-Datei (Endung z.B. in txt ändern) auch einfach anhängen.

Ansonsten denke solltest du jetzt erstmal update. Mir fehlte übrigens die apa.dbx, ich musste sie von CTAN holen.

[tjaenare]

Ansonsten denke solltest du jetzt erstmal update. Mir fehlte übrigens die apa.dbx, ich musste sie von CTAN holen.

Super, ganz vielen Dank, daran hat es gelegen!! Jetzt gibt es weniger Warnungen (und die haben nichts mit der Bibliographie zu tun), UND ein Literaturverzeichnis!! Wäre ich doch 'mal ein paar Stündchen eher drauf gekommen! :-s

Ganz vielen Dank Euch Dreien für Eure Hilfe!!